Nature Loves Me · Nov 06, 2007, 12:18 PM // 12:18

[card]Onslaught[/card]

I was looking to make a new build for my Derv with Onslaught and then after I was half way done I thought if this woudl work better with any other profession, maybea R/D?

At 15 Expertise skills cost 60% less Energy to use. Does this stack Onslaught to make it 85%? And what NON Ranger skills does Expertise affect? All of them? Or just certain types.

Njaiguni Blaze · Nov 06, 2007, 12:45 PM // 12:45

Skills, touch skills/spells, attacks, traps and nature rituals are effected by Expertise. I'm not so sure about binding rituals, but I think those are also effected by it.
As for making a R/D, only because you want Expertise and Onslaught to stack (which they probably do) is... well...I don't know... Why? Rangers can't use Mysticism, can't have runes that the Dervish can have and have only 3 energy regeneration. Mysticism on a Dervish should cover the energy you would normally spare with Expertise imo, and then you also have a better damager.

Kale Ironfist · Nov 06, 2007, 01:00 PM // 13:00

At 15 expertise, and with Onslaught, you should see a reduction of 70% of all attack skills. 15*4% (= 60% reduction) from Expertise, and .4*.75 (the -25% from Onslaught)=.3.

Expertise reduces exactly what it says it does: Ranger skills, attack skills, rituals and touch skills (including touch spells, as everything in your skills inventory is a skill). There really isn't a need to use Onslaught to reduce costs since Expertise is such a huge reducer already. For a Ranger primary, you're really only getting the reduced recharges, which really isn't needed.

Nature Loves Me · Nov 06, 2007, 01:14 PM // 13:14

Ok xD Thank you for the facts, it was just an idea, wanted to get the factions on the attribute before I started making it xD.

sdrawkcab · Nov 06, 2007, 01:42 PM // 13:42

wouldnt this be good r/d split att mark, wind, expertise and use high nergy bow skills and any that have longer recharge

Nov 06, 2007, 12:18 PM // 12:18	#1
Nature Loves Me Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2007 Guild: Desolation Lords [DL] Profession: Mo/	Expertise Attribute and Onslaught Skill. [card]Onslaught[/card] I was looking to make a new build for my Derv with Onslaught and then after I was half way done I thought if this woudl work better with any other profession, maybea R/D? At 15 Expertise skills cost 60% less Energy to use. Does this stack Onslaught to make it 85%? And what NON Ranger skills does Expertise affect? All of them? Or just certain types. Last edited by Nature Loves Me; Nov 06, 2007 at 12:21 PM // 12:21..

Nov 06, 2007, 12:45 PM // 12:45	#2
Njaiguni Blaze Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Netherlands Guild: The Biggyverse [PLEB] Profession: Me/	Skills, touch skills/spells, attacks, traps and nature rituals are effected by Expertise. I'm not so sure about binding rituals, but I think those are also effected by it. As for making a R/D, only because you want Expertise and Onslaught to stack (which they probably do) is... well...I don't know... Why? Rangers can't use Mysticism, can't have runes that the Dervish can have and have only 3 energy regeneration. Mysticism on a Dervish should cover the energy you would normally spare with Expertise imo, and then you also have a better damager.

Nov 06, 2007, 01:00 PM // 13:00	#3
Kale Ironfist Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Australia Guild: Venatio Illuminata [VEIL] Profession: W/	At 15 expertise, and with Onslaught, you should see a reduction of 70% of all attack skills. 154% (= 60% reduction) from Expertise, and .4.75 (the -25% from Onslaught)=.3. Expertise reduces exactly what it says it does: Ranger skills, attack skills, rituals and touch skills (including touch spells, as everything in your skills inventory is a skill). There really isn't a need to use Onslaught to reduce costs since Expertise is such a huge reducer already. For a Ranger primary, you're really only getting the reduced recharges, which really isn't needed.

Nov 06, 2007, 01:14 PM // 13:14	#4
Nature Loves Me Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2007 Guild: Desolation Lords [DL] Profession: Mo/	Ok xD Thank you for the facts, it was just an idea, wanted to get the factions on the attribute before I started making it xD.

Nov 06, 2007, 01:42 PM // 13:42	#5
sdrawkcab Academy Page Join Date: May 2006 Profession: R/	wouldnt this be good r/d split att mark, wind, expertise and use high nergy bow skills and any that have longer recharge